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Serbia’s Lost Empires - I was listening the same battle cries as itemized by “R.“ when Serbia's paramilitary hordes, trained and armed by the government of Serbia, crossed the Bosnia frontier in April 1992 to orgy on innocent and unarmed Bosnian civilian and “liberating“ one after another places and killing non-Serbs and even some of the Serbs who refused to participate in their murderous conviviality. It was a foray instigated by Mr. Milosevic’s  policy of a greater Serbia where there would be no place for non-Serbs. All other Serbs’ theories of a plot by the West are nothing but stark lies.Comparison by “Sammyz” of Kosovo and Republic of Srpska is utterly a nonsense. While Kosovo was annexed during the Balkan war in 1912, it has never de jure was a part of Serbia, but a part of Yugoslavia and as such was an autonomous province. Republic of Srpska had never existed as anyone’s part but was created on genocide in 1995 by those who were taking part of Serbia during its aggression on Bosnia in 1992. Serbia now insists on respect of the international law forgetting the near past when it was violating all possible human and international laws. Now America and the West are to be blamed for the genocide and atrocities committed by the Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo. I only wonder whether the EU is aware of what adder it is calling to joint it. I am afraid it will destabilize even the EU, as it is a destabilizing factor on the Balkans. Wait and see.

Before getting concerned about this very odd article, remember Nadina Roncevic is not a commentator but a paid advisor to the Albanian Kosovar PM, and a long-time proponent of their cause. This means her striking descriptions of the Serb side should be regarded as party political broadcasts, with all the credibility that carries.Hence perhaps invoking a grab-bag of increasingly distant Serb misdeeds while ignoring the genuine key - and current -issue, the woeful mistreatment of Serb and other minorities in Kosovo by her side. As an American citizen that tries to pay close attention to world events, and gets information from as many disparate sources as possible, I have come up with only one reliable FACT:

...that ANYTHING you hear about what's going on in the former Yugoslavia,...

...consists of a TINY kernel of truth, wrapped in a BIG lie, wrapped in an agenda, wrapped in an obfuscation, wrapped in a proxy.

In other words, there is just no way to really arrive at any semblance of an understanding of what's really going on, and the only thing you can definitively hold close is that whatever the face value APPEARS to be, the underlying truth isn't even a red-headed stepchild of that face value.

Just a quick response to this article written by Nadina who I would say is either a Croat or Bosnian Muslim. You seem not to know your history about the former Yugoslavia & make a personal attack on Serbia & its people. Your journalism is to be laughed at and was second rate. Blame the US & the western countries who planned the break- up of the old Yugoslavia, notably Germany, who killed millions of Serbs during WW2. How can anybody blame Serbia for reacting to losing Kosovo to the Albanians, would any country just accept losing their territory.  Lets now grant independence to the Republica Sprska in Bosnia.

Why is that if any population (other than Serbian people) in the Balkans seeks 'self-determination' it is to be championed and endorsed by all, but if Serbian people seek that same right, it as Ms. Roncevic describes, should be treated 'harshly'. This kind of double standard likely won't be tolerated by Serbian people and nor do I think it should. Secondly, I think the author should be more responsible with the numbers she uses to characterize the war. Using exagerrated numbers and inflammatory rhetoric to inspire and incite hatred against Serbian people does not serve the Balkans well. As published by the ICTY itself, 102000 casualties resulted from the recent wars in the Balkans, 30% of those victims were Serbian and there was fighting between Muslim 'Bosniaks' and Croats as well as interfighting amongst the 'Bosniaks'. This has been know for quite some time yet the author still perpetuates the myth that 150-200 thousand people were killed by Serbs. Thirdly, if a Bosnian of Croat descent could speak for themselves, I seriously doubt they would concur that are steadfastly in agreement with how the Bosnian Muslims have been governing. They for the most part fell like they have been overlooked and even been discriminated against by the Bosnian Muslim government. Far from the unity that you espouse that they seek, many feel like they need more autonomy from the central government. If the Croats who are supposed allies of the Bosnian Muslims can't live within in the Bosnian state without being discrimated against, what chance do regular Serbian people have at living a normal life in Bosnia?

After reading the article , “Serbia’s Lost Empires” the  journalist who wrote it Nadina Roncevic must either be a Croat or Bosnian Muslim who has made a personal attack on Serbia & Serbian people. Get your facts right first before you start making a personal attack of a country & its people.

Nadina, you are completely wrong. The U.S. had planned to dismember Yugoslavia long before Milosevic. They waited until Tito died, so that his control over the country would not interfere with their plans. Germany couldn't wait to get revenge on the Serbs for losing to them their battles of World War II. The Albanian political leaders of Kosovo are Islamo-Fascists, who plan on taking more land away from the Serbs. It was the American backed Bosnians who attacked the Yugoslav army first. It was the  German backed Croatian fascists who attacked Yugoslav forces. Milosevic was trying to keep Yugoslavia together, while NATO, mainly led by the U.S. and Germany were trying to break it up.  Hundreds of thousands of lives were lost in the Balkans because of the planning of Richard Holbrooke  and Madelaine Albright...and other villians.  Their evil and their egos will lead to a new world war.

R.

Hi Nadina, You have a lovely muslim name, your whole article was based on lies and and more fabricated lies.

Perhaps you should right how many times Alija Izetbegovic met wih Bin Laden in Sarajevo.

nadina, you speak many truths but you must understand that sovreign land is what it is .the un is still the ultimate legal machine . which the usa seems to diregaed whenever it needs to procure its interests ie (arming  KLA and bosnia covertly of course well what about sadam hussain and the taliban who were then called muhajadeen) of course russia has an agenda and why shouldnt they .the atrocities committed by israel daily are never crititised by the west ask yourself why . If RS wants to align with serbia whats wrong with that nothing if you follow your own rules question to you why does the usa need to have control in the various parts of the world.  because economically its a spent force .its trying to destabalise the eu and control the flow of oil around the world the the russia of today is far stronger than the ussr was .personally i would like to see serbia in the eu with or without kosovo. and all the other fyr,s  in eu only then can all the bloodshed of history old and new be put to bed and resigned to history once and for all .as for mladic and karadzic how can you be sure its wuithin serbia,s power to arrest them .after all osama bin laden is still at large or at least the usa wants us to think he is.